Timeline for What do we do with highly upvoted, accepted, wrong answers?
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| Apr 13, 2017 at 12:10 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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| Jan 20, 2016 at 9:36 | comment | added | badp Mod | We have a precedent for deleting upvoted and wrong answers: GnomeSlice's answer for what happens when you kill a Zombie pig in Minecraft, or something like that. It had hundreds of votes and it was 100% wrong, so the only possible fix was deletion. This post doesn't quite sound 100% correct, but it's not 100% wrong either. | |
| Jan 19, 2016 at 20:34 | comment | added | SnakeDoc | @Sterno It's not a "yes or no" question, it's a "maybe or sometimes", however the answer has taken the only "no" route, which is wrong. It is closer to my original analogy, if we had a question about wearing cotton in the snow, and someone started off by insisting there's absolutely zero risk ever, they would not only be wrong, but they would be spreading potentially dangerous information. That's the case we have here. | |
| Jan 19, 2016 at 19:25 | comment | added | Sterno | When I say "hurt himself", I didn't mean physically, obviously. And the snow camping analogy doesn't work. It would be more analogous to "Will I have problems if I wear cotton when snow camping?" and then people rage at anyone who says "no, here's why I don't think you will" and try to get their answer deleted. There are two possible answers to his question... yes or no. Banning half of the answer pool is ridiculous. | |
| Jan 19, 2016 at 18:04 | comment | added | SnakeDoc | @Sterno Essentially, without being able to look at the source code for every game ever made, nobody can make any claim that under no circumstances will ALT+F4 lead to save corruption. It's more wise to say that it's unlikely to lead to save corruption in a modern, well designed game, but that it still has the possibility and therefore it's still best to use the in-game exit routine because that's how the developers would have anticipated a user quitting. Mason's claims are well reasoned, and are how a game ought to be designed, but he cannot make the claim about every game. | |
| Jan 19, 2016 at 18:00 | comment | added | SnakeDoc | @Sterno Nobody will be physically injured by a corrupted save, but it's parallel would be as-if we had questions about Snow Camping and the top answer said "wear cotton!" and got a ton of upvotes. It's dangerous in the context of the SE site. The problem many have taken with the answer is Mason's stubbornness to at least even admit there is a remote possibility of corruption. The more it was debated, the more adamant he became that there was no scenario which could prove him wrong. His ego probably got the best of him, but that's an absurd claim to make. The answer has been updated now. | |
| Jan 19, 2016 at 17:55 | comment | added | Sterno | @SnakeDoc This is why this argument seems so ridiculous to me. The guy is asking if it is harmful. Some answers say yes. This one says no. People are up in arms that this "no" answer is going to get him to hurt himself. It's specifically the thing he's asking about. If he gets a yes answer and a no answer, it's not like he isn't fully aware of the possibility that the "no" answer might be wrong. We need to stop treating users like idiots who can't make decisions for themselves. There's no hidden danger here. He's fully aware of the risks if the answer is wrong. | |
| Jan 19, 2016 at 17:35 | comment | added | SnakeDoc | @fredley I think the fact that this answer "blew up into a drama hurricane" is indicative of the issue. As written, the answer is likely to leave false impressions with readers that it's impossible to corrupt save games by ALT+F4'ing out... this an impossible claim to make and impossible to prove. It's far better to air on the side of caution and advise users to instead utilize the in-game intended exit routine. Without that disclaimer, the answer should be considered dangerous because it will cause someone to corrupt an important save. | |
| Jan 19, 2016 at 1:01 | history | edited | Aequitas | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 19, 2016 at 0:59 | comment | added | Aequitas | I thought it was cool you could save any game from the command prompt so I tried it and now I can't get my computer to open, what gives? | |
| Jan 18, 2016 at 23:05 | comment | added | Frank | For the most part, I agree with this, except for the harmfulness of it. I do think there is a fairly large potential for harm, if this is taken as gospel across all of gaming in general. Specifically, probably not, though, and that's probably how it'll be interpreted for the most part. | |
| Jan 18, 2016 at 22:51 | comment | added | fredley Mod | @Sterno It's worth pointing out that in many cases, including this one, the answer can be edited to remove the parts of it that are wrong. | |
| Jan 18, 2016 at 17:22 | comment | added | Sterno | I should be clear I'm not saying he did anything wrong. The comments were deleted long before I ever read them, so I have no idea what their content was. But it is certainly not unheard of for long comment chains to get deleted and discussion moved to meta. I don't think that happening here is an argument against leaving a comment when you think an answer is wrong. | |
| Jan 18, 2016 at 17:17 | comment | added | Sterno | @Kevin There's a big difference between leaving a comment about the problems you see with an answer and having long an argument about it. Usually that difference comes down to tone (which can make the OP defensive) and whether or not you continue to respond to arguments about your comment. The comment isn't to convince the OP that they're wrong... it's to give other users some reasons why the OP might be wrong. Besides, given that the post in question now links to this meta, it's still effectively raising fbueckert's objection. It unfortunately just requires some clicking now. | |
| Jan 18, 2016 at 17:05 | comment | added | Kevin | That's precisely what Frank did, and now he's getting downvoted and ignored. | |
| Jan 18, 2016 at 17:04 | comment | added | fredley Mod | @Kevin As it says on the post in question, either take it to chat which is much better set up for extended discussion, or take it here to meta. | |
| Jan 18, 2016 at 17:03 | comment | added | Kevin | @fredley: I thought we were talking about this specific case... What are we supposed to do when commenting is disallowed, anyway? Your answer does not address that. | |
| Jan 18, 2016 at 17:02 | comment | added | fredley Mod | @Kevin In the general case, posts don't blow up into drama hurricanes, so leaving a comment is a good thing to do. | |
| Jan 18, 2016 at 16:59 | comment | added | Kevin | "Leave a comment" is no good. The mods have specifically prohibited comments on this answer because it's generating too much debate. | |
| Jan 18, 2016 at 16:02 | history | answered | Sterno | CC BY-SA 3.0 |