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What does 'game-training' got to do with an application that cheats in a game?

This question seems legit to me, the poster, as there are plenty other questions about the origins of a certain gaming term. I'd like to know why it is treated differently from them.

Some users who deemed this question worthy of reopening cast their votes, but three of the same users who initially cast their votes to close have voted again to leave it closed. I'd like an explanation from them, if it is possible.

Other questions similar to this one are Why are bosses called 'bosses'? and everything under: https://gaming.stackexchange.com/search?q=%5Bterminology%5D+%7Eorigin , https://gaming.stackexchange.com/search?q=%5Bterminology%5D+%7Esource and https://gaming.stackexchange.com/search?q=%5Bterminology%5D+%7Ehistory

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  • "Why do words mean things" isn't much of a question.
    – Matthew Read
    Commented May 1, 2013 at 5:02
  • @MatthewRead At least it is on English Language & Usage. Still many of such questions are out there in the open. But really why is my question any different from those other questions? At first my thought was also "Hey, it's primarily a gaming site, maybe I should post on ELU", but then I found those other questions here, and my question should be interesting for gamers.
    – user1306322
    Commented May 1, 2013 at 5:06
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    @MatthewRead - Tell that to the terminology tag.
    – Robotnik Mod
    Commented May 1, 2013 at 5:08
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    @Robotnik There is not a single open question in that tag so poorly expressed as this one.
    – Matthew Read
    Commented May 1, 2013 at 5:11
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    @MatthewRead I am all open to suggestions. I want to make my question better. Not just because it may be required for reopening.
    – user1306322
    Commented May 1, 2013 at 5:13
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    Change it to simply "What is the origin of the term 'game trainer'?" and nothing more and it may be accepted. Your speculation is extremely confusing and detracts from the post as a question. Or simply say you don't understand how anything is being "trained" and ask for the meaning of the term. "Why" in particular is unanswerable -- people name things because they name things, nothing deeper really.
    – Matthew Read
    Commented May 1, 2013 at 5:17
  • I can agree that the title could be a little better, though the question cannot be reopened through casting reopen votes now, as it has been voted to stay closed. So only a moderator intervention can help.
    – user1306322
    Commented May 1, 2013 at 5:23
  • @user1306322 a closed question can be re-opened if 5 users vote to reopen it. No moderator intervention is required.
    – Oak
    Commented May 1, 2013 at 5:29
  • @Oak This comment gave me a different impression. I guess the ones who already voted for reopening can't do that again, and those who voted to leave closed also can't do that anymore?
    – user1306322
    Commented May 1, 2013 at 5:37
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    @MatthewRead "Change it to simply "What is the origin of the term 'game trainer'?" and nothing more and it may be accepted. Your speculation is extremely confusing and detracts from the post as a question." That's what OP's question originally sounded like.(See the revision history here.) The OP added the "speculations" because of comments by some of the close voters (now deleted) that the question has nothing to do with gaming and is better suited to EL&U. He's getting conflicting information on what counts as on/off-topic in Arqade.
    – galacticninja
    Commented May 1, 2013 at 7:53
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    @user1306322; I do not feel it would be possible to provide an authoritative answer on this question, and that regardless of what form it takes it will ultimately result in speculation, which is why I have voted to re-close this question. It isn't off topic though, it's just not constructive.
    – user27134
    Commented May 1, 2013 at 21:22
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    @user1306322 Oh, I'm not going to have a go over the question being asked, don't get me wrong. However, any answer that your question attracts will not cite any references or sources, and will solicit debate - which is pretty much the exact wording of the "close as not constructive" text.
    – user27134
    Commented May 1, 2013 at 21:28
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    @kalina we can't be so sure about that, can we? I've seen some similar questions answered with a citing of the first mentioning of the term usage, so.
    – user1306322
    Commented May 1, 2013 at 21:29
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    I rolled back your edit. Questions which are closed as something other than a duplicate are eventually all deleted. Closing isn't intended to be a permanent state, but a temporary one. All (non-dup) closed questions are either eventually fixed and re-opened or deleted.
    – Wipqozn Mod
    Commented Jul 1, 2013 at 19:10
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    @Wipqozn I've seen many times people say that closing and reopening is the natural order of things for questions on SE.
    – user1306322
    Commented Jul 1, 2013 at 21:08

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We don't usually like objective questions that ask why things are the way they are or what the origin of something is as those questions often either fall in the realm of game design (regrettably off topic) or are quite challenging to answer authoritatively without resorting to guesstimations, like I just have in the comments.

There's no easy fix for this. This honestly sounds like the subject for a short research paper rather than a question for a site of enthusiasts. This wouldn't make the question bad per se if it wasn't for its being a honey pot for bad answers that may sound right but aren't.

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    Making the question subjective obviously doesn't work because it'd then become a poll. "Why do you think..."
    – badp
    Commented May 1, 2013 at 8:23
  • So I guess the times have changed and such questions no longer fit this site, then?
    – user1306322
    Commented May 1, 2013 at 15:45
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    @user1306322 There's no harm in trying and I wouldn't quite say there's a ban on those questions, but the risk of facing community rejection for those is high.
    – badp
    Commented May 1, 2013 at 16:15
  • @user1306322/badp What if the question was changed from a speculation on the origins of the term, to a question that simply asked what it meant in terms of cheating, as the body implies?
    – Robotnik Mod
    Commented Aug 19, 2013 at 1:18
  • @Robotnik I don't really care any more, because I got my answer. If you think it's worth changing it so that it goes visible again for other users who might find that interesting, go ahead.
    – user1306322
    Commented Aug 19, 2013 at 6:33
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    @user1306322 - done
    – Robotnik Mod
    Commented Aug 19, 2013 at 7:11

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