I understand the motivation for having a different tag for sequels. However, I think Overwatch 2 is an exception, as it's a live service game that completely replaces Overwatch 1 (which cannot be played anymore). As a result, I think it would be appropriate to merge overwatch-2 into overwatch, especially considering that all new Overwatch questions are likely from Overwatch 2 players.
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I believe the tags should stay separate. Despite Overwatch being unavailable in place of Overwatch 2, questions for the original game are still largely unique. Heroes, maps, balance, and more, are very different between games. Going back to all the old questions and updating them to make sense for the new game would be silly, in my opinion. Keep the Overwatch tag as is, maybe with a message that the tag is deprecated with the game being unavailable to play, and make sure that users know to use a new Overwatch-2 tag.
For those asking, here are some questions I consider unique to the original Overwatch:
Why haven't I got the Legendary and Epic skins that come with the Overwatch: Legendary Edition? (there are no more lootboxes)
In what order are lootboxes opened? (see above)
Does Orisa's "Halt!" activate when it hits someone? and What is the range on Orisa's Halt if it hits an object? (Orisa no longer has the Halt! ability)
Does Orisa's Supercharge ultimate stack with other damage buffs? (Orisa no longer has Supercharger as her Ultimate)
How do I achieve max damage with Doomfist's Seismic Slam? (Doomfist is now a Tank, and no longer has the Seismic Slam ability)
I can go on, but there's 13 pages of Overwatch questions. If someone wants to volunteer to be a janitor and clean up 13 pages of questions with numerous answers, go right ahead, but I do not see any reason to merge the tags. The game is called Overwatch 2. Let's keep the new tag, and leave the old one for legacy purposes. Why knows, with Activision-Blizzard being the money hungry saps they are now, it's only a matter of time until Overwatch Classic comes out, and the questions are relevant again.
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9If enough people are interested, this site can come together as a community and weigh in on introducing a tag warning for the tag, which would alert question askers attempting to use the tag with a customized message. However, it's worth mentioning that a tag warning is best created when the tag is already being used incorrectly. That does not, yet, appear to be the case, but I figure I would mention this here for the future's sake, in the event that we begin to see it misused.– SpevacusOct 13, 2022 at 14:34
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2That aside, I agree. The games are pretty different, even if OW2 has completely supplanted OW1, and a lot of the old information should stay old and relevantly tagged with only the [overwatch] tag.– SpevacusOct 13, 2022 at 14:35
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@nightsurfer Can you give an example for "questions for the original game are still largely unique"? Oct 14, 2022 at 0:51
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I still disagree with keeping the tags separate, though I think using a tag warning would be an improvement over not doing anything. I'd argue that overwatch would be used incorrectly in this case, since you won't actually be able to use any answers to questions for a game that you can no longer play. Oct 14, 2022 at 0:54
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1@Spevacus Tag warnings have never been implemented in Arqade - see: Tag Warnings: Looking for suggestions of tags that often got low quality questions and would benefit a warning when trying to add that tag and all other meta posts tagged tag-warning-request. Oct 14, 2022 at 3:48
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3@NickMcCurdy though you could do this search yourself, I will post an edit to what I consider unique Overwatch 1 questions. Oct 14, 2022 at 15:21
The tags should be synonymized: overwatch → overwatch-2 but not merged.
(See the Meta SE post, What are tag synonyms and merged tags? How do they work? - for the difference between tag synonyms and merged tags.)
If we do it this way, then questions currently tagged overwatch and overwatch-2 will stay as they are, with no retagging (no merge). Since some overwatch questions may not be relevant anymore nor make sense for Overwatch 2, we should not merge the tags, and only synonymize them.
After the tags are synonymized, the site will automatically convert/retag all new questions tagged overwatch to overwatch-2. (No need for tag warnings.)
Using overwatch-2 as the main tag is more appropriate than overwatch, since Overwatch 1 is obsolete and can't be played anymore, and the tag will reflect the game's current name.
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2My concern is that making a minor edit to an overwatch question, such as a typo fix, would change it to be a question about overwatch-2. As far as I understand, making a tag warning does not have this disadvantage, but has the other advantages of what you and @nightsurfer are suggesting. Oct 14, 2022 at 3:20
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1@NickMcCurdy Edits to questions about obsoleted games that can no longer be played are rarely done in Arqade. If they're edited, moderators can easily retag them back. As for tag warnings, they have never been implemented in Arqade - see: Tag Warnings: Looking for suggestions of tags that often got low quality questions and would benefit a warning when trying to add that tag. Oct 14, 2022 at 3:45
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Requested a tag warning: gaming.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/15994/… Oct 14, 2022 at 7:06
No. We should rename overwatch to overwatch-1 instead.
Advantages:
- overwatch-1 and overwatch-2 questions will stay separate, avoiding the disadvantages that come with merging or synonymizing these two tags, as already mentioned in the other answers and their comments.
- Prevents confusion, since some overwatch-1 questions may not be relevant nor make sense for Overwatch 2 anymore.
- No need for tag warnings, since the game's iteration is clearly indicated in the tag and tag wiki.
- Since overwatch-2 is not merged to overwatch, overwatch-2 will reflect the game's current iteration's official name.
This idea is from @V2Blast's comment at Tag Warnings: Looking for suggestions of tags that often got low quality questions and would benefit a warning when trying to add that tag :
Also, something else we've done over on Role-playing Games with the tag for the 1st edition of an RPG system with multiple editions is to rename the tag from, e.g., [adnd] to [adnd-1e]. This helps avoid folks mistakenly thinking it's a tag for any edition of the game, rather than a tag for a specific edition. In this case, the mods here could just rename the tag to [overwatch-1] instead.
(Adding another answer because this is a different suggestion to my initial answer. I don't think that I should delete the other answer because it already has a few upvotes.)
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I suppose a rename would be fine. But I don't see it really necessary to be honest.– Timmy Jim ModNov 2, 2022 at 13:01
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tag to only be about Overwatch 1, we should probably disable adding new questions to it, since nobody can play it.