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TL;DR: Two highly-voted questions by high-rep users appear to have been deleted for reasons we do not accept as valid close reasons, anymore. Can we reopen them with a disclaimer that they apply to older, un-playable features of the game?

The two questions concerning Diablo 3:

What factors should I use to price an item in the auction house? - 49 upvotes, 18 stars. 12 answers: 10 actual answers(-1, 0, 0, +1, +1, +2, +3, +5, +19, +25) and 2 illegitimate answers(-2 : spam, -8: low quality). The most upvoted answer also has a 200 bounty on it.

What are the ways to cash out my earnings in the auction house? - 8 upvotes. 2 answers (+6, 0).

Both questions were deleted by badp, assumabley because the questions were "too localised", after Blizzard removed the Auction House from Diablo 3 all together.

We have previously closed questions as "too localised", in cases where the content was no longer accessible. However, I have been told that this reason is no longer valid, by our current standards. I have also seen a lot of arguments on why these questions are still good. The big ones I agree with are as follows:

  • The questions are still interesting, and servers the purpose of satisfying curiosity. We only close questions for "unreleased" content due to speculation, which is not an issue these questions face.
  • The questions are good examples of high-quality. The first one is a prime example. With all the low quality posts we take on this site, I'd like to have as many "+50" questions as we can.
  • The removal of the questions actually penalises the users who posted them. With the effort that was obviously put into some of the content, this is something I am absolutely against on merit.

Unfortunetly, a lot of the meta regarding this sort of practice is a bit old. Unfortunetly, if we were to bring the question back up, it would just be closed as a duplicate of the original, given our standards. Regardless, the old metas make very good points, which I think still applies.

Ultimately, I think these two questions server to promote quality on the Arqade. I think a better course of action then deletion would simply be to leave them open, but locked, with an obvious disclaimer at the top detailing exactly why the question is no longer applicable to the current state of the game.


Related Meta: Can we stop closing questions as "Too Localised"

Murgatroid's post speaks for itself. The post consists of a request to stop closing as too localised, with a bunch of answers that seem to agree in one way or another.


Related Meta: What to do with out-of-version questions

An ex-user posts a question asking "What should be done with out of version questions? How should these questions be handled, going forward?", relating to the general sense that these things occur a lot in gaming.

The most upvoted answer only has 8 votes, but agent86 has gone to great effort to simplify the main reasons why we should keep them. Of particular note are the listed reasons on why "Deleting is bad":

  • Sometimes the content comes back (probably not the case, here1).
  • Sometimes dead content is interesting
  • It is one of the hardest post modifications to recover from

I will not post the elaborations, here, but I implore readers to read the post, as it is well thought out.

Related Meta: What to do with historic questions that may not make sense

Fredley asked "What to do with historic questions that no longer make sense? - Should we delete them?", in relation to an update to Minecraft. This relates to the Diablo Auction House quite easily.

Fredleys opinion is "No", and received no contest. The question in question is still open.


Related Meta: What to do with questions regarding a game that is no longer available?

Frank previously asked "What do we do with questions about games that can no longer be played", which I think applies just as much to parts of a game that can no longer be played. One suggestion is to historical lock the posts. I am not entirely sure what that means, but it is also suggested that we only do so if there is an actual problem.

The most up-voted answer (count the votes, +65,-0) says *leave these questions be. A comment addresses the fact that deleting these questions penalises the users who put effort into the answers, and with the case of the first, that's a big reputation penalty. It is worth noting that the primary argument is 'they may bring it back', which I do not think applies to the Auction House1.

Another answer with +15/-0 votes points out that we have no real reason to remove such questions. If the feature/game no longer exists, users will not ask/answer about it them. A disclaimer would alert users to the fact that the question concerns unplayable content, so we are not as concerned about users still trying to answer the question.

A user does actually say "Delete them all". The answer received a vote of +0/-8, and was eventually deleted by Raven.

1 For those unfamiliar with the Auction House, the initial release of Diablo 3 allowed users to trade items through an auction system similar to that found in World of Warcraft. Real money was an available method of payment, so you could literally sell your Diablo gold for real gold. Blizzard decided to remove the feature, and spent alot of resource rebalancing the in-game economy, as a result. I have this case detailed as "the only real reason Diablo 3 was not as financially successful as it could have been". It is fair to say a company will not undo such a critical decision, especially considering the weight that went into making the decision to axe it.

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    What good would we be doing to undelete them? At this point, they're basically curiosity. It may also lead to confusion, because D3 is still playable, while the AH is not. – Frank Jul 15 '16 at 11:58
  • @Frank, at the end of the day, they are quality answers. Why would you consider it any different to other too localised questions that are still left around for basically the exact same reason? curiosity is still a valid reason to ask a question. You cant say "we allow your question based off curiosity, but we wont reopen your other question because its based off curiosity". – user106385 Jul 15 '16 at 12:21
  • you probably would. But I favour uniformity across the board – user106385 Jul 15 '16 at 12:22
  • Quality means nothing when that mechanic is no longer in the game. There's a difference between leaving questions for a defunct unplayable game, and leaving questions about an unplayable mechanic for a playable game. – Frank Jul 15 '16 at 12:23
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    I wrote a meta at one point regarding undeleting Minecraft questions after Mojang added the ability to the Minecraft Launcher to go back and launch a previous version of Minecraft, making it possible for the old mechanics to be used in practice. I've never played D3, but if the Auction House was completely removed and isn't currently accessible by any means, I don't think we should undelete them. Part of curating content is knowing when and what to cull so as to maintain the quality of the whole. – Robotnik Jul 15 '16 at 13:33
  • Ah, here it is: meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/10580/… – Robotnik Jul 15 '16 at 13:35
  • The problem we have with that argument, @Frank, is that even then the opinion that the auction house would never come back (even though I suspect it wont) is still speculation. You say said features might come back. How do you know, for sure? Were you a part of the development team? – user106385 Jul 15 '16 at 15:18
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Those questions should stay deleted. We keep questions for an unplayable game, on the off chance that perhaps at some point it may become playable again, and those questions might be useful. But I don't think there's value in keeping questions asking about a defunct mechanic. It'll just lead to confusion when anyone encounters those questions. The Auction House is no longer a part of the current game, and hasn't been for years. If Blizzard brings it back, we can undelete them pretty easily then, or re-ask new ones, if it's been significantly changed.

Undeleting these questions now is just archiving a mechanic of the game that no longer exists. Deleting them did no harm, because it was deleted well after the rep gain became permanent, and we can't add new answers, anyways.

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