I asked a question that they didn't know how to answer, so they flagged it?

Question

How do I deal with a situation where I am /trying/ to ask a question, but everyone is telling me I'm not?

I mean, clearly, I am asking a question. I can see the question, I can see how it is answered if I had the knowledge, I just don't yet have the answer.

Then people come in, and they, also not having the answer, tell me I'm not even asking a question?

Then, instead of helping me redefine my question, they just tell me I'm wrong. Sometimes they offer alternative questions, but those are usually entirely different questions that would have different answers than I am looking for. Then, once I explain that their questions are NOT going to answer what I'm actually asking, they just flag me, accuse me of all sorts of nefariousness, and my question goes unanswered.

So I can't ask perfect questions that are can be understood by literally everyone. Yes, I admit, that is one of my weaknesses. I don't think that should mean that the ONLY reaction I get is basically being told not to even ask the question, because I couldn't ask it in a way THEY wanted me to ask it for THEM to be able to answer it within THEIR knowledge set. AS IF I SOMEHOW ALREADY KNOW EVERYTHING THEY KNOW?

How am I supposed to ask so specifically, when I am already here because of the point that I don't know, which is why I am asking a question?

What is the point of asking questions to answers I don't know if all anyone here does is fight over if it is a question or not? It is pettiness? Are they upset that since THEY can't personally answer it and get rep that it somehow is no longer a valid question?

Even now in this post I am not sure what my question is, but obviously I am without an answer. Perhaps I need help asking my question, but that doesn't mean I don't have a question. What the heck? :(

This meta post is basically a duplicate of my situation. Based on the answer I have made my own question:

You did exactly the right thing: if you think a question was closed incorrectly, coming here and creating a question explaining clearly why you think it should be re-opened is the appropriate thing to do.

Except I already covered everything I possibly could in the original post, which is now deleted, and I don't feel like arguing all that crap again because it seems like it would fall upon the same deaf ears.

Answer 1

I am a non-involved user. The way I interpret your question is as follows: "I noticed that you can apparently achieve temporary invulnerability in VATS. How else can this mechanic be used?" (If this isn't quite right, feel free to correct me).

The way I am reading it, you essentially want people to come up with situations that this game mechanic could be useful (and try it out to make sure that it works in that scenario). In this sense, from what I understand, the question is too broad. There are too many possible answers, since the mechanic is fairly free-form, there are likely several dozen possible scenarios. You name three possible scenarios yourself, even. It's the kind of question that doesn't work as well in this format as it does in a traditional forum format.

It's not so much as nobody in the comments understood your question, it's that the people in the comments were trying to come up with an alternate question that could work in this format. That being said, I am honestly not certain of a direction the question could be edited to work for this site. The best I can potentially come up with would be asking about the actual value of the damage reduction, or something along that line. Yes, this would be a deviation from the original question, but please understand, your original question is too broad.

Answer 2

As a general rule, assuming commenters don't understand your question is a non-starter; you often don't need domain knowledge of the game to understand a question is problematic. A question meeting the most technical definition of such doesn't automatically mean it's something we can support, or allow.

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Now, to specifics:

For a point of reference, here is the question asked.

Full disclosure, I voted to close it as unclear. I had trouble figuring what it was you were looking for. Confirmation you were correct? More uses for the bug/glitch/mechanic you had observed? It wasn't very clear. And I said as much:

We're getting into a bit of of an...XZ issue? Sorry, not sure how to define it. You're essentially stating a certain action, making an assumption on the mechanics behind it, and then positing how said mechanic can be used. If you could focus your question on how this mechanic works, you could A) See if your hypothesis is correct, and B) Get examples of how it can be used. Right now, you're not even sure how what you're observing works. That's the critical assumption we would excel at correcting.

You've made an observation, assumed knowledge of the mechanics behind it, and instantly leaped to additional uses. We're not really about making lists of things; we can, but it's not really how the whole SE network works. We're about specific, concrete issues gamers have with games. There's a bit of overflow into lore and other related areas, but compiling a list of X isn't really our strong suit. There's no way to write a complete answer to that sort of question, especially when the core assumption may be faulty. That's why you were being guided towards focusing on the mechanic itself.

That is what we excel at; figuring out how mechanics work. We're great at telling you exactly how something works, and why it works that way. We can correct assumptions, and give some examples of how to use the mechanic. That's a clear, concrete question that's useful to the internet at large.

Which is what users were trying to guide you towards: a specific, focused question we could actually help with, that would still help you. Here at SE, we try not to radically change a question beyond what the asker intended, so that's why no one took it upon themselves to make the edits for you. It's not quite what you were asking, that much was clear, but that's the salvageable part for us.

If you want to try again, focus less on building a list of things, and more on a problem you are facing. We not only work much better that way, but we can still hopefully help you with your main issue.