Timeline for Should we replace one of our close reasons with modded Minecraft tech support?
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| Jun 15, 2020 at 8:58 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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| Sep 21, 2019 at 1:07 | comment | added | user232393 | @Mark as I already stated, I'm open for alternative suggestions instead of "highly moddable games". | |
| Sep 21, 2019 at 1:01 | comment | added | Mark | @bearb001, highly moddable game that isn't Minecraft? Kerbal Space Program. | |
| Sep 4, 2019 at 9:15 | comment | added | user232393 | @galacticninja There is a consensus here. I didn't change the wording much, I agree that "Other abnormal behaviour caused by modding" may be too broad. I don't think that Oblivion, Skyrim, or Fallout are as moddable as minecraft, I'm not too familiar with those games and I'm open for alternative suggestions instead of "highly moddable games". | |
| Sep 4, 2019 at 9:07 | comment | added | galacticninja | @bearb001 I don't think we had a similar issue with mod-related questions in highly moddable Bethesda games, e.g. Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout - that are similar to issues Minecraft has. Maybe mod issues in those games can be troubleshooted easier. "Other abnormal behaviour caused by modding" is too broad and would cause non-problematic, solvable tech support questions about other moddable games to be closed too. We're looking for a close vote reason for an already established consensus, not looking to discuss new ones. There should be a separate meta post for that first. | |
| Sep 4, 2019 at 8:51 | comment | added | user232393 | @galacticninja While it would cover all games, my suggestion would not affect all games. Can you think of any highly moddable game that isn't minecraft? If so, do you think that questions for technical support on modded versions of those games would be any better than those for minecraft? Of course the close reason should follow consensus, but if anything is supposed to change, then someone will have to make a suggestion, if the suggestion is good, then the consensus will shift. | |
| Sep 4, 2019 at 8:44 | comment | added | galacticninja | I disagree with the close vote reason you suggested. The close vote reason should follow consensus. Consensus is specifically only for Minecraft, while this close vote reason also covers all other games. | |
| Sep 3, 2019 at 22:44 | history | edited | user232393 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
edit after reflecting on my opinion
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| Sep 3, 2019 at 22:28 | comment | added | user232393 | @Wrigglenite I see where the confusion is coming from. I'm aware of the fact that the close reasons don't dictate our policies. I think that this off topic reason is important enough due to it's nature though. It's like saying that we REALLY don't want to help with illegal activities. I've been thinking about this a lot while trying to find a way to propperly explain my point and I guess it wouldn't actually change that much. I kinda wonder why we don't use the most common off topic reasons with this logic, but I guess there would be no harm in replacing that one in particular. | |
| Sep 3, 2019 at 22:16 | comment | added | Wrigglenite Mod | Just as a reminder, our close reasons do not dictate our policies, it's the opposite way around. Removing one of the close reasons wouldn't mean that we would start accepting, say, questions about piracy. It would just mean that in 0.58% of cases, a custom reason would have to be typed in, instead of clicking one of the pre-set close reasons. | |
| Sep 3, 2019 at 21:30 | comment | added | user232393 | @Dragonrage I reduced it to 492 characters including links and formatting. It's still too long, but it can be reduced further by someone who knows a bit more about what information is the most important. It may be enough if we leave out this sentence for example: "We can help identifiying a game if a picture, video, audio file, or other medium is provided." (That would reduce it to 387 characters including links and formatting). I'm not sure if that makes sense though and I'd like some feedback on it first. | |
| Sep 3, 2019 at 21:22 | history | edited | user232393 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Reduced length of the suggested close reason, it's still too long though.
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| Sep 3, 2019 at 21:14 | comment | added | user232393 | @FoxMcCloud I do think that rules can be official, even if there is no explicit close reason for it. I do think that the rule should exist in a clear form on an official site like this one though. I don't think we should remove any close reason either, merging two of them would be a better solution. I may also have worded this poorly (This makes sense as an "official" off topic reason). | |
| Sep 3, 2019 at 20:57 | comment | added | FoxMcCloud | I do like the version of the close reason encompassing multiple games if we can come up with a way to do it that makes sense. I don't like getting rid of the close reasons you stated. I also don't like the thought process of "if it isn't in the close reasons, it's not an official rule." There are some good thoughts and ideas in this post though. | |
| Sep 3, 2019 at 20:15 | comment | added | Dragonrage Mod | You proposed close reason (without links) is 593 characters. With links, it is quite a bit longer. Custom close reasons have a maximum length of 400 characters. | |
| Sep 3, 2019 at 20:10 | history | answered | user232393 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |